There’s a lot of noise around brand-building. Big promises. Overnight success stories. Motivational soundbites that make it all feel deceptively simple. This conversation wasn’t that.
Dusted Co-Founder David Wall recently appeared on an episode of The Shadow Agents, a podcast focused on the realities founders face when building something that lasts. Recorded in conversation with Shayan Saria from West Bengal, India, it’s a grounded, experience-led discussion about what actually happens behind the scenes of long-term brand growth.
They talk candidly about the pressure points. The uncertainty. The moments where confidence dips and decisions carry real weight. From Dusted’s early days to the hard lessons learned under strain and the mindset required to sustain a brand over decades, not quarters. It’s an honest account of what it takes to build a brand that endures. One that looks beyond short-term wins and quick fixes, and instead focuses on clarity, conviction and long-term thinking.
If you’re a founder, marketer or brand builder who cares about longevity over hype, this one’s worth your time.
You can listen to the full episode of The Shadow Agents here: